May 15, 2015 at 10:09 am #3613
The board of the league agreed at its meeting held on Thursday 14th May, the following statement:
Subject: Applications for Promotion to, and within the SWP League
Allocation of club from outside the feeder league system:
Plymouth Argyle Reserves : Already Granted in March : Allocated to West Division & Playing at Bickleigh Barracks.
Step Seven to Step Six: (East & West to Premier)
Helston Athletic : West Division : Passed (Dispensation) : 1st : PROMOTED
Liskeard Athletic : West Division : Passed : 6th : Declined
St Dennis : West Division : Failed : 4th : Declined
Sticker : West Division : Failed : 5th : Declined
Tavistock : East Division : Passed : 1st : PROMOTED
Teignmouth : East Division : Failed : 3rd : Declined
Feeder Leagues to Step Seven :
Edgcumbe : East Cornwall Premier : Failed : 3rd : Declined
Plymouth Marjons : Plymouth & West Devon : Passed : 4th : Declined
Mullion : Cornwall Combination : Failed : 1st : Declined
Tiverton Town Reserves : Devon & Exeter League : Passed : 1st : PROMOTED
Torridgeside : North Devon : Passed : 3rd : Declined
Wendron United : Cornwall Combination : Passed : 2nd : PROMOTED
Premier Division: One club from each of East & West are promoted – Helston Athletic & Tavistock. Elmore are regarded as the bottom club so relegation is reduced from two to one with Bovey Tracey being relegated to Division One. Premier now has full compliment of 20 teams.
Division One East & West: Two clubs are accepted under promotion with Tiverton Town Reserves being placed in East and Wendron United in West.
Due to two withdrawals from Step 7 (Foxhole & Truro City) since the last AGM, those two clubs are considered the relegated clubs under the league rules. However Perranporth have stated that they voluntarily wish to be relegated this year.
East had 18 clubs (full) it gains Bovey Tracey and Tiverton Town Reserves and loses Plymstock United (transferred to West) and Tavistock so remains full with 18 members.
West had 16 clubs, it lost Helston Athletic & Perranporth but gains Plymouth Argyle Reserves, Plymstock United & Wendron United and now has 17 clubs.
The maximum strength of the league is 56 clubs, 20 in Premier and 18 in each of East & West.
NB: Relegation next season from Division One with 18 & 17 clubs in membership. If only 1 club is eligible for promotion then no club will be relegated but if 2 clubs are eligible 1 club must be relegated and a play off match would dictate if necessary.
Philip Hiscox (Company Secretary)
May 15, 2015 at 8:03 pm #3622
I think I’m turning into Big Al, but Plymouth Argyle “Reserves” at Bickleigh Barracks!! Seriously??
Bickleigh appears to be even more of a one horse town than Holsworthy, doesn’t appear to have any bus service at all.
May 15, 2015 at 11:19 pm #3623
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Plymouth Citibus 42 or 46 will get you to the Woolwell roundabout, it’s less than a mile from there.
May 17, 2015 at 7:36 am #3630
I believe that the pitch at Bickleigh is within the base perimeter so how is it going to work for spectator access?
Will we have to apply in advance for security clearance?
May 17, 2015 at 8:34 am #3632
It is just inside the gate entry (although you can see the pitch without entering, through a wire fence!)
Entry procedures are being worked on, a meeting between the MOD, the league and Plymouth Argyle has already taken place and the security orders are being re-worded by the MOD, they will then be given to Argyle to put into place on a practical basis and will be monitored by the league.
I am not going to get into a debate now about if Fred Bloggs turns up will he get in, what I will say is the issue has been raised, systems are being putting in place and closer to the time of them actually play a home game we will advertise what has been agreed and also monitor it once they start playing matches.
Not aimed at you David – But one problem with social media and forums is that instant information seems a “right” and everything has a conspiracy about it! The league, club and MOD staff are sensible adults who are fully aware of potential drawbacks but are and will work to deal with them.
In a similar “rant” – I see comments about 2 West teams coming from Plymouth. Exactly what were we supposed to do as without the 4 Devon based clubs the West would have just 13 members and the East would have 22! People forget that if we were able to pass, say Mullion, then we could not have taken Wendron as you can only take 1 per division (so it would have made no difference to the travel. Likewise Edgecumbe, maybe a Cornish clubs, but they do actually play home games in Plymouth – so that would have been another trip over the bridge !
Sometimes my fellow officers and I really do wonder if we can ever please any of the people, any of the time !!!
Rant over (and repeated from earlier this was not aimed at you David)
May 17, 2015 at 12:13 pm #3634
Thanks for the information Phil.
I remember when Plymouth Command were in the Devon League supporters had to make themselves known at the Camel’s Head gate but were then allowed to make their own way across to the pitch.
Can’t see the Royal Marines allowing this, particularly in these days of heighted security.
May 17, 2015 at 1:27 pm #3637
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I’ve heard on the grapevine that there is to be a Devon hop next season.If so this begs the question:Will Bickleigh Barracks’ground be included?Most hoppers,like me,face the dilemna of either watching a reserve team(ugh!)at home or else losing out on a new ground(double ugh!!)but me thinks security issue may make this unviable.It worked at Plym.Command,though,as they even allowed me in so it must have been ok!Cant say I am deliriously happy about this forthcoming scenario but if the league is happy then who am I to grumble?
Oh,and to those moaning about Plymouth clubs being in the west division?Try looking at similar issues in other leagues and you will see this is trivial in comparism-sorry Bask!
May 18, 2015 at 1:58 pm #3784
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The simple answer would have been to say to Argyle, you have a ground at Home Park your reserves will play there if you want to join the pyramid system. That is if you have a reserve side and not youth teams which will purport to be reserves.
As a matter of interest are there many pro clubs with official reserve teams that do not play at the clubs facilities. ????
May 18, 2015 at 2:07 pm #3785
You only need to look at the venues for the FA Youth Cup and Premier Reserve leagues to realise that most professional clubs use other stadiums other than there own these days.
Manchester City have even built themselves a whole second ground, the Academy Stadium !
May 18, 2015 at 4:32 pm #3787
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I think there is more than a subtle difference between another stadium and trying to gain access to MOD establishments for the general public for a step 7 match in the FA pyramid system.
May 18, 2015 at 5:33 pm #3791
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I think there are more pro clubs that use other grounds than those that do. Even the womens teams are farmed out to local clubs
June 11, 2015 at 7:35 am #4076
Seems agreement has been reached regarding admission to Bickleigh Barracks to watch the so-called Argyle Reserves in action- there’s a piece in the Herald here:
So much for turn up on the day on a whim!!
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